38 special 125 grain load data bullseye

"Berry's Superior Plated Bullets are the finest bonded copper-jacketed bullets available today.." ?. I agree with your .38 Special assessment points for the very same reasons. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Bullseye is primarily associated with .38 and .45after all, it says right on the bottle: Great for .38 Special and .45 Auto target loads. But it is equally at home in high-velocity auto loads. JHP, (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose), (JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet). Magnum 44 S&W Special 45 Colt 45 Auto 45 G.A.P 9mm Luger 9x18mm Makarov 32 S&W Long (Cowboy Action) 32-20 Win. I use Bullseye powder but it's about the same burn rate. There is one good reason to use WST. I keep thinking about trading it for a Model 27 or, maybe, one of the new Pythons for extra weight. At 25 you can get away with a lighter load. Also some WSF. Posted March 2, 2013. I just dont like practicing with it. Thats what the Cavalry Board asked for over a century ago, and thats what weve got. I too must be older than my years (35), as I love reloading .38SPL and have a S&W 442, S&W 36, and my most recent acquisition is a S&W 19-5 that is an absolute joy to shoot. My Dad has advanced arthritis and could not longer easily work his auto loaders. Great Cast Lead Bullet for IDPA. it seems awful confusing, but with time you will be able to interpolate the published data into something that will give you good starting points to work up your loads. WST is less dense than BE. Have not confirmed the difference with a chronograph. Traditionally, the max SAAMI pressures were: 38 S&W 14,500 Robert Frost. Send the cylinder out to get cut for moon clips and adapted to 9mm, so you can shoot both 38/357/9mm and use all on moon clips. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Hodgdon - 700-X: 125 gr. Similarly on drills with set times such as firing five shots in five seconds onto a bull at ten yards, the Bullseye load allows a little more time per shot to take advantage of a great 1911 trigger and lets the shooter nearly push shots into the same hole. Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 9 customer ratings. http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloaders-guide/equivalents.asp. .38 Special Montana Gold 125 FMJ Power Pistol 6.1 COL 1.417 Tested with a S&W-686-3, 6", ambient temperature about 32 degrees, no wind, target posted at 25 feet (hey, I'm testing handloads for use, not my long range bear killing skills, defensive only). WAP, WMR, WSF, WSL, 760, 748, 231 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. 2.) He has taught and been responsible for numerous advanced skills and weapons courses within multiple organizations. Of course, these will be used in a revolver. .38 Special is a lot more comfortable in a service size revolver like my Model 10. My Hornady 11th edition shows this for 38 Special 158 gr lead RN, LSWCHP and LSWC. Some use powders dispersed in liquids, some use electrostatic guns to spray dry powder on their bullets. Battis, if you go to the very bottom of this page you will see Castpics. Is it more bulky? My other son fired one shot and handed it back. People who prepare usually tend to focus on the survival basics: security/self-defense, water, food, first aid, sanitation/hygiene, knowing when to get out and when to stay put. Similar to a 9mm 124 gr RN Cast Bullet. S&W M637-2 2" barrel In my area, Bullseye is one of the first powders to disappear from shelves, lasting about a heartbeat longer than an econo bulk box of .22 Long Rifle ammunition. I carried a lightly customized 4 inch heavy barrel model 10 for years, with a black cerakote job. Larry Gibson "Deficient observation is merely a form of ignorance and responsible for the many morbid notions and foolish ideas prevailing." Nikola Tesla 01-30-2020, 01:43 PM #9 Mr_Flintstone Boolit Buddy Join Date Jan 2020 Location 7, No. When using a 158 gr. You can fit 7.1gr of powder under the 125gn JHP bullet? I have a few 30-30 cases modified to shoot singles with a very light load. .38 will take care of nearly any critter that needs dispatching feral cats, raccoon, armadillo, even wait for it. Lord only knows how many cartridge cases I hammered with a plastic mallet into that Lee, it had to be thousands. The 919 case is tapered and therefore wider at the base than the .38 special is. References: Accurate Arms Co. 1996 Reloading booklet Alliant Powder Co. Reloaders Guide (1995) Hodgdons Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester Reloading Components Manual, 14th edition Lyman Piston & Revolver Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. I have done it with 38 special and 44 Mag, only to have a lead coated bore that looked like a rusty old drain pipe. Biggest problem I had was the lubricating cases for sizing and then cleaning them afterwards, I guess grit was somehow scratching the cases after getting stuck in the lube. Based on this Id load some at 3.3 and 3.5 and see what you get, but Id never exceed 3.8 ever. I did start out fawning over all of the tactical gear, but once I had that covered my tastes matured I think to love the wood and steel guns. Only need cast when driving up to 1200 fps or so. That sounds. (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), * Blackhorn 209 is a black powder substitute with smokeless like qualities. I picked some up from my local Scheels yesterday. I bought him as a gift a 642 with the black rubber grips, a few speedloaders w/big knob tops, and Hornady 125 grain FTX loads. A significant difference in speeds is usually noted. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. would also bridge the gap that the .38 versus .357 have in defensive loads. I like the smell of Bullseye, dont mind wiping the handguns down after a range day, and the dark soot that accumulates on my support hand when shooting wheelguns in particular just reminds me to wash up. Something like the Ruger GP100 or S&W 686 yup, theyre the best caliber for those size revolvers. hebyta May 15, 2012. kc2za said: Hi All, I have been loading .38 spl with 2.7 gr. Very versatile cartridge. It seems to burn completely in the .38 and is not as critical as the faster powders like Bullseye. Your link has been automatically embedded. ammunition in the same gun enables that shooter to hunt larger game and to fend off beasts that snarl. These types of guns are not as strong as more modern solid frame revolvers. Notes: primer: CCI 500; case: Speer; NOTE: All loads are maximum. Ive done the majority of shooting in .38 Special in my Smith & Wesson 642. I still think highly of the LCR but would shoot only 148 grain wadcutters in .38 Special or .32 H&R Magnums in the .327 Magnum model. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Two years into my second century a Colt MK IV Series 80 LTWT Commander 45 ACP still delivers the big medicine, but I have become enthralled with a new wheel gun- a Charter Arms Professional 32 H&R Magnum. Im still new to reloading, having done 2500 38 spl with bullseye. The proof pressure MAP specified by SAAMI is 29,500 psi for both rounds. All newly manufactured .38 Special revolvers must be proof tested to the same higher proof . Years back, for indoor matches I teamed the heavier S&W Model 28 with 3.4 grains of the same powder and bullet in . The majority of my shooting with .38 has taken place with soft lead bullets. are you loading .38 special brass, or .357 magnum brass? Required fields are marked *. I almost spit out my drink when I read your comment. Good point Len. revolver, with a 3 barrel, and 4 6 oz. All three of those powders have published load data for that weight bullet in .38 Special. Through the heyday of bullseye shooting over the various match courses of fire, there was probably a Mount Rushmore-sized mountain of powder loaded and combusted 2.7 grains at a time. If you havent taken a look at what the .38 Special offers, youre selling yourself short. Im new to loading the 38 for accuracy, but the biggest issue I found with case length is your crimp. Recoil is subjective and I feel no difference between that and an 750-775 fps load. You will find plenty of Red Dot loads there. I thought the DR program was NRA, not CMP. The 38 Special Ball round was designed a long time ago to comply with specifications laid down for ammo that was : 1) Compliant with the Hague Accords of 1907 in regard to "unnecessarily" injurious ammunition. ,I looked at Speer data, nothing there. Nitpicking is its own reward., I believe the correct spelling is loathe . The range (understandably) insisted you shoot their ammunition and the mildest they had was 158 grain LRN standard pressure. Ive played with several that I like, but the classic in 9mm is 4.4 grains driving a 115-grain jacketed bullet. As I researched loads in the meantime, I kept seeing the same several popping up again and again in sources from as recent as yesterday to long out of print books from when air travel was a newfangled wonder. IIRC, I used 4.5 gr of Bullseye under a 125 gr lead bullet for a light plinker, and 5.6 gr of Bullseye under a 148 gr wadcutter (~815 fps, 4" bbl, probably around 750 fps out of a snub). Too early Are you sure? The pistol or revolver of good quality is vital. JHP (now discontinued) 5 rounds . Its the kind of load that will make you fall in love with the 1911 all over again! Ready to load some Berry's148 gr plated DE wadcutters with Bullseye. Alliant listed 3.6 gr Bullseye as maximum (15000 psi) in 38 Special and 3.8 as max in 38 Special PLUS P (17000 psi) with 158 LSWC bullets. Just got back into reloading 38 special again after a long hiatus with no revolver, and was instantly reminded of what a joy it is to reload. I get okay accuracy with 4.4 of W-W 231 and 125s, depending on what bullet is used. Since it hit the market 103 years ago, it has been a staple for most handloaders and the backbone of most accuracy loads in the popular calibers. Have you all found different seat depths to work better than what's in the manual? Not sure how that translates to Bullseye powder. If you, I took the vow not to buy any more AR-15s a couple of years ago. The 158 gr cast plain base accuracy load was 4.0 gr 231 which gave 837 Fps and 15,900 psi. There is a difference in the manufacturing process of swaged bullets. I will start ouy at the minimum velocity then. These grips seem quite comfortable and afford a pinkie finger rest for improved control albeit with a certain loss of concealability. In the 1950s, 60s. head I use 3.2gr. The only way to shoot both 9mm and .38 special is to have two separate cylinders timed to the revolver. I load my own, 130 gr RNFP using Win 231 powder a little over the mid point in the published load data. The mild recoil of the mid-range load is a perfect mate to the .38s that most shooters own these daysthe airweight J-Frame or equivalent. Because we have no action to cycle, the novice reloader can afford to be off a bit if they have an entry-level scale or powder dispenser. I used to reload .38s and .357s with 158 grain LSWC bullets over 4.3 and 6.5 grains of Unique. Most double end wad cutters are 148 grain, and DR bullets must be 158 grain. 8.) A 4 inch barrel would be my choice as well. I also find the LCR .357 enjoyable to shoot with all .38s and most .357s. There is almost no recoil and the student can increase power level when they feel ready using the same gun. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. . 38 Special, all bullet weights Bullet Powder Weight Powder Velocity OAL Primer Source 110gr JHP! I have not loaded plated bullets in quite some time, since they are not useful for my accuracy needs. I agree, an airweight has snappy recoil. 10,870. A little shopping around might do better, as would casting the lead bullets. The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges youd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. Jacketed bullets are not legal for Distinguished Revolver. Now theres an old memory. Just an FYI. Powders include IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant, Vihtavuori, Winchester, Accurate Not in that order. These are hand loads.. load data was published in Lyman 50th edition.. I have found that some powder coated bullets which are the same weight as lead, feel quite punchy out of the gun. The gun has appeared on TTAG before and has remained unchanged as far as accessories. SASS# 85224. However, after consulting my several different manuals, 3.5 seems to be a border line max load. I SEE THAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT USE THE AMMO FOR D/R. As anyone learns quickly, first thing that needs to be done is to replace the small factory S&W grips (I use Hogue) so you can hold onto the gun. Best and most realistic article about the .38 special ive found. JHP, 158 gr. Really important to have a chrono if you're going to work up loads When I first bought my chrono, I was amazed at how HOT my loads were - unnecessarily. The design of this modern revolver makes the SW guns seem archaic. Replaced w/ Altamont laminated wood, and later w/ open- back Pachmayrs- the less-pronounced finger grooves fit me better. This wire is then fed into a machine called a cold header. 38 special is a great cartridge. As a result, Ive been able to spend far more time practicing with it rather than fussing with it. It would seem that a 125 grain GDHP is of the same weight and would have a similar profile to what you want to use. Left to right:148 gr. .38 J frame.) hard cast LSWC's as a target load. I load rounds for my wife to shoot @ Win 231 4.0 to 4.3 gr. There really is a recently developed technology that prevents leading, while eliminating messy lubricants. Which left me with the last two. I was hoping I could use this combo to make use of available components. I load my 38 target ammo to 3.5 grainsand my self defense 38 to 3.8 grains, when using 158 grain bullets (and Bullseye). each bullet is different for oal due to a crimp groove on most. I dont own anything in .38 special yet, but I have plans to buy a .357 magnum revolver in near future, so I already reloaded couple thousands of rounds in .38 and .357. I wish Id had a commercial version of this load in my ammo allocation when we were tasked with getting classes of students up to special operations standards with the issue custom 1911s. What sort of wildlife are you thinking would be a good application for this self-defense load? load is 4.4 grains for 38 special and 5.0 grains is a +P load. Currently using Titegroup, but started out with, and loaded many thousands of rounds, with Bullseye. Shoot cast and coated bullets and you can go much higher in load and velocity. Most of these are at the upper end. I have loaded wadcutters for plinking , Double end 148 grain,, mixed brass over 2.7 gn WST or Bullseye. i had the same issues you did when i was trying to load for my DR revolver 14-3. to light of power had a soft recoil but ungodly bad accuracy. Notes: Bbl Length: 5.6; primer: Fed. I have tested both brass and nickel-plated cases using mild loadings and have not yet worn out a case. Bullseye or Titegroup cover 90% or more of my .38 Special loadings. I dont bother polishing my .38 brass because I just dont let it fall in the mud or dirt. 3 gr of WST in a 38 spl case with 125 gr plated bullet is a very light load. I dont miss lubing casescarbide is king! The only reason that my standard (everyday carry) self-defense handgun is not a .38 Special revolver is because I can conceal a semi-auto better (it isnt as fat as the cylinder on a revolver) and my semi-auto has 15 rounds of hard-hitting 180 grain bullets. This is good, because the snub takes a lot of practice to have a consistent capability. I keep it under my seat in case I get an unwanted intruder and I cant get to my IWB semi auto. Load with 38 S&W data. Anyway, you are probably right that the revolver guys trend towards the older end of the spectrum, but I think some of the younger guys are starting to catch on to the magic of wheel guns. I have experimented with both of Hornadys 200-grain semiwadcutters in this load: the more button-nosed SWC and the longer Combat/Target (C/T) version.

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